In the founding of America, some suggest the idea that “all men are created equal” was a lie, written by hypocrites in a time of slavery. When the New York Times’ controversial 1619 Project was first published, it’s introduction stated that it “aims to reframe the country’s history, understanding 1619 as our true founding." How should we understand America’s founding and its promise that “all men are created equal”? Today, we sit down with Dr. Matthew Spalding, a professor of constitutional government and Dean of the Van Andel Graduate School of Government at Hillsdale College. He was the executive director of the 1776 Commission, created by executive order by former President Trump, which published a report defending America’s founding aspirations. This is American Thought Leaders, and I’m Jan Jekielek.